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Wa alaikum salam dear ablacigim :) Yes you are right. Mevlana belongs to everyone as stated by his family. so i will close this topic. His teachings just amazing. His quotes itself gives us a minute to think over them. Mevlana loved people. He didnt look at nationality. He called people to Allah, even they were the worst sinners. This why Mevlana is knewed in the world :) I want to end this post with a beautiful quote from him "Come, come, whoever you are. Wanderer, worshiper, lover of leaving. It doesn't matter. Ours is not a caravan of despair. come, even if you have broken your vows a thousand times. Come, yet again , come , come." Rumi

The Anatolian Mystic? We receive quite a lot of emails at this site and the question most often asked is why we are calling Mevlana an Anatolian mystic. Although we answer almost all email we receive in person, we thought it may be better if we pre-answer that question here to save time. Mevlana wrote almost all of his work in Persian (Farsi or Pharsi, the language of Iran), which was the dominating literary language of that period. His work is part of the school curriculum in Iran as it is in Turkey. So why not call him Iranian? When someone is born in a different place than where he became famous, it is usually with the latter place that he is associated with. The famous composer George Frideric Haendel was born in Halle, Germany as a German citizen, but he became famous in England and nowadays he is mostly known as an English composer, his name is spelled in the Anglicized way as Handel and he is buried at the Westminster Abbey. Nevertheless, we have specifically refrained calling Mevlana Turkish, or Afhgani. Instead, we used the name of the geographic area where he lived, wrote and died. Mevlana was born on 30 September 1207 in Balkh, in present day Afghanistan. He died on 17 December 1273 in Konya in present day Turkey. Naturally, in 800 years the world's political map changed considerably. Countries that rule large parts of the world cease to exist (e.g. Ottoman Empire) and countries that used to cover extensive land shrink to become normal size countries that we expect nowadays (e.g. Great Britain and Iran. If you read the quote above you will see that we use the term "present day" next to the countries in where the two cities important to Mevlana's life are mentioned are situated. That is because neither Balkh, his birthplace, nor Konya, the place he spent most of his adulthood and where Mevlana wrote all his works are under the jurisdiction of the same countries as when he was alive. Balkh was a city of the vast Persian Empire then and Konya was a city under the jurisdiction of the Seljuks. Neither exist anymore. On the other hand, it is a historical fact that "Rumi" simply meant Anatolian back in time and that is why Mevlana is called Mevlana Celaleddin Rumi. Rumi, from the word Roma, was loosely used for the land of the old Eastern Roman Empire. Even the Seljuk sultanate that ruled Konya while Mevlana was living there was called "Sultanate of Rum." It is this fact that made us call Mevlana Anatolian. more Calling Mevlana Anatolian, is equal to calling him Rumi. There has never been a country called Anatolia, it is a sub-continent. We call someone from Europe, European, or someone from Africa, African. Then why not call Mevlana Anatolian, when he is from Anatolia? That is what we thought, but judging from the emails we keep receiving we were wrong in our assumption. Nevertheless, we will continue to stand by the use of the term "the great Anatolian mystic". At least we try to show you, the reader that we have no intention to "steal" Mevlana's heritage from any country or race. That is against Mevlana's philosophy and it will be the most wrong thing to do for the descendants of Mevlana. In his own words: Come, come over, more over, how long this brigandage? As you are me and I am you. How long this discrimination of you and I? We are light of GOD! Why this separation among us? Why light escapes from light? We are all from the same yeast, our brains and heads too. But under this bowed sky we see double? Mevlana belongs to everyone. Çelebi Family

His family tree... {Admin edit: Link removed}

i understand this but what kind of a comment is this "This is a controversial topic, since Mawlana Rumi is claimed by the countries" this is ridicilous, plz everyone in the world knows Mevlana is Turk. How can someone who checked his family tree, can make such comments? I will try to find a article about this...

I think they havent seen his family tree? Stil today his family lives in Konya. I dont know how these people are doing their search?

Mevlana is not a Persian Sufi Mystic,He is Turkish. He is even accepted in Turkish Literaure. I think i can understand why Mevlana is is called of Persian Sufi Mystic, his piece Mesnevi, (his famous piece) was written in Persian. Just because of this, many people think that Mevlana is Persian. No! He is totally Turk and this has been proven by the Turkish Literature Professors also. The reason he wrote his piece Mesnevi in Persian was ,Persian was on those times a language which world knew. Most of Turkish poets wrote their pieces in Arabic or Persian. Just because Mevlana wrote his piece in Persian does that make him Persian? i dont think so. It feels me with sadness that Mevlanas nationality is always understood wrong.

Dear sister You are right. I guess i shouldnt have felt this hopelessness after all this religion is not the religon of hopelessness. Its a religion of hope. To be honest, maybe i needed motivation after all. I think the 3 one is a good motivation for me. There is beautiful quote, that i want to share in here... "I do not want to worship from fear of punishment or for the promise of reward, but simply for the love of Allah." Rabia Basri Whenever i see this , InshaAllah it will help me to strive ;)

well i guess its today for Turkey... dear sisters plz i have very important exams coming up and plz remember me in your duas. You duas are needed :) I will also remember in my duas and duas i make in Barat :)

Is it today we celebrate 15th Shaban cos in Turkey they are celebrating it today??

Jazakillah for your post :)

It will be very nice if someone shed some light to the following hadith below; Rasulullah (sallalahu alayhi wasallam) said that he who plays chess is like o­ne who has dipped his fingers in the blood of a swine. Surely there was a cogent reason for this stern prohibition. Now, regardless of whether that reason exists in some cases or not, the prohibition of playing chess will remain until the day of Qiyaamah. In fact, the prohibition has been taken further by the Fuqaha (the Authorities of the Shariah). This prohibition has been extended to all similar games of the kuffaar. " Does this mean playing chess is haram?

Oo i see :) Jazakillah for your enlighting post :)

I understand all of them except the last one?? Why " those who wear their trousers, kurtas,lungis,etc below their ankles are not forgiven? Where is the evidence of this?? Could someobody shed some light??

i agree with you sis... i feel the same. i feel that i dont deserve Jannah in anyway...

i have question i didnt understand this following hadith; "Rasulullah (sallallahuálaihi wasallam) said: “Allah Ta’ala pays special attention to his entire creation on the fifteenth night of Sha’ban and forgives all of them except one who ascribes partners to Him and one who harbors enmity in his heart.” " What does it mean by the one who harbors enmity in his heart? İ mean in someways we all feel enmity sometimes to somebody? Could somebody explain this to me?

Aww poor little girl, i pray and hope that she gets well soon ;)

I know who you are :)

Aww my dear ablacigim. Get well soon. I will remember you in my duas.

İts originly comes from Asian Turks. As you know Turka are orginally from Asia.

i know that 40 day thing is a turkish practice. The number 40 itself is important number for us. This practice comes from pre-islamic times. İt really sad that many people in Turkey dont know its a innovation. They think its a İslamic practice.

Long time no see :) how are you all?? btw just to make it clear soup is not my favourite :) Cig kofte :)

I totally agree with you dear sister. Like you say Towards Falah :)